7 Pax escaped the warm confines of their fartsacks to get their daily dose of the Red Pill at CAT this morning. YHC has been rolling through the AOs of Lexington with a special workout called Form School. Each time it just gets better and better. As you may have observed in bootcamps across the …
YHC planned a well balanced workout bringing back a fan favorite – the Deck of Pain. A party foul was committed as YHC didn’t spin any tunes until some mumble chatter – IHeart Radio Family Version to the rescue. We certainly could have used TOY’s playlist! The deal was simple: Each PAX took 3 cards. Spades = …
Weather: 34° and windy Disclaimer & Prayer Mosey to the loading dock to find some relief from the wind COP SSH x 30 IC TTT x 15 IC; at this point a plane flew directly overhead and the PAX got distracted and stopped doing the exercise called Burpees x10 OYO, to refocus the PAX on the workout …
Burpees, Bear Crawls, Broad Jumps, and Bricks were on tap today as YHC made his first trip out to Ambush. It was great to finally be able to make the trip and see how much pain this group could take. The answer is more than I could dish out. Hard work was done, and the …
8 Pax beat the fartsack for a not so well planned Babe Q. As YHC sat in vehicle at 10 till 5am all alone debating whether to go for a run or go back home when no one shows. It was first BC after dreaded time change and temps had dropped to 28 degrees so …
35 degrees didn’t scare away 5 Legion faithful as YHC “scraped” the windshield with the wiper blades and some windshield fluid to get to the Gloomiest AO around (#not smart). I love Qing Legion cause these guys never shy away from a challenging workout. YHC tried to keep the intensity high throughout the workout and, as …
Backblast posted by Wee Wee on behalf of Abner. Conditions: Mid 30’s 1 minute Warning FNG’s (yes)…..Disclaimer Opening Prayer Mosey to concrete area near the loading dock. Side-straddle hop ICx16 Through the tunnel ICx16 The PAX were a little curious about the 16 reps performed during warm-ups. We knew there had to be a reason and below …
Conditions 34F cold and clear. Disclaimer No FNGs Circle up for prayer. Mosey across parking lot and down hill crab walk to bottom. Circle up for warm-up in the dark pit. SSH 15 IC LBAC 10/10 F/R Overhead clap 15 ic Flutter kicks 15 ic Bear crawl out of the pit up hill to pavement. …
9 pax did the hard thing and got up in these cold temps to put some work in. Spring and summer are coming, enjoy the cooler weather while we have it Conditions 32 degrees, clear skies, full hearts The Thang SSH x 25 IC Merkins x 15 (2-count) IC Indian Run to Landrum sit ups …
YHC always enjoys time at The Hollow. A great group of men and good mumblechatter is always on tap. The plan was to do a 5k during BC with a stop every 1/4 mile to do some reps. YHC figured that we could all use a little more work before the P200 next week. NEXT …
Weather: Brisk 37 degrees but clear The Thang Opening/disclaimer/prayer The Crypt pax have been looking for a push as many are entering the final stages of preparation for the P200. The mumble chatter was strong as were the backs of these men. The challenge of this workout was for the men to “take up their cross”. …
The Thang: Once again this year we will be offering a Good Friday Ruck that includes stops at several local Shandon Churches for readings from The Way of the Cross and some exercises at each stop. Pax are encouraged to carry heavy rucks, coupons or pick up a block from Dreher before we depart. Gather …
YHC thought the weather would be an issue this morning, so he planned to keep the PAX under cover for some speed and agility work. Thankfully the rain held off and we were able to mix in some track work as well. 10 PAX showed up to get better and that we did! Great to …
Conditions were nice at about 48 degrees. Very humid, but no rain, even though it was forecast. Maybe that was why we had a low turnout. Puddles were everywhere since it rained the night before. Luckily God gave us a nice window without rain 🙂 Route and description were posted the day before. Fairly …
CONDITIONS: CHILLY IN THE 40S The Thang: Iron Crosses x 20 IC SSHs x 20 IC TTT x 20 IC Hold the Line mosey to bottom of Reaper Hill LBACs x 10 IC into Overhead Claps x 10 IC into LBACs x 10 IC backwards Hold the line mosey to 2nd light Group Calf Raises …
Always a pleasure to visit the men of Boneyard. Full of mumble chatter as always. Appreciate Chum and Dirty Bird for assisting with early morning set-up. conditions: chilly 37 degrees The Thang: SSHs x 20IC TTT x 20 IC LBACs x 20 IC forward into Overhead Claps x 20 IC into LBACs x 20 IC …
It was a chilly but sunny day in Finlay park. We prayed up first, then TW with the disclaimer. COP: For the warmup, we did SSH, TTT, Windmills, LBAC and Bend&Reach all x 15 IC. Mosey to Ampitheater Triple Nickel: run to the top, 5 burpees, run down, 5 burpees. R&R 3 …
Lego isn’t much for introductions and this BB is posted on his behalf. It’s is a safe bet that all PAX present are still sore in some part of their lower bodies from this WO. COT Disclaimer THE THANG: SSH x10 IC TTT x10 IC Mosey to brick pile, and dig thru the pile of …
The Murph was called for, so one and 1/2 Pax completed the task. Unfortunately, YHC had to punch the Daddy Duty clock at 6:30, but Milli Vanilli did not let my early departure slow him down. Conditions: 41 and Good BOM Prayer The Murph (YHC left after 1 mile, 50 Pull ups, 100 Push ups, …
The PAX of Stampede have been pretty active the last couple of weeks so I wanted to commend them. Palmetto 200 training has got these men focused! And those not participating in the P200 are still posting to encourage the team which is appreciated. Here’s Stampede’s count going back a couple weeks: 2/23/18 7 2/26/18 …
YHC hasn’t been getting out to Stride like he used to, like he wants to, like he needs to. Signing up to Q helps solve all those. 11 pax and 1 Winston got in a few chilly miles of various distances this morning. Chilly, maybe ~30 degrees, thankfully little wind. Welcome, 1 minute warning, prayer, …
16 PAX dominated The Hollow gloom and got better. There were back-blasts a plenty especially during the sessions of Mary. FNG 2-ChainZ was an animal will be Q-ing beatdowns in no time. It was good to be in the presence of many Hollow greats and the extra 15 minutes of sleep was nice also. It …
Great morning for a little partner workout with some of Graveyard’s many HIMs. Clear starry skies with temps around 30 degrees. The Thang: Disclaimer BOM Warm-up: Group mosey followed by the classics (SSHs, TTTs, OACs, LBCACs, IWs) Timed Merkin Workout (as many reps as possible in the time allowed while your partner counted and encouraged from a …
Conditions – Cold and clear, 32 degrees I enjoyed coming to The Arena this morning to lead a great group of men. After our COT prayer, we mosied to the back of the school. 20 Side Straddle Hops, IC 15 Through the tunnel, IC 10 forward and backward Little Baby Arm Circles 20 Overhead claps …
7 Pax awoke from their slumber and the comfy confines of the fartsack to endure this morning’s cold snap and downpainment at the hands of YHC. Conditions: 29 deg, clear skies The Thang: Disclaimer Warmup – mosey to the pull-bars for COP SSH x 20 IC IW x 20 IC Burpees x 10 OYO TTT …
Conditions: 30* and Clear Intro, Disclaimer and Prayer COP 20 SSH 15 TTT with behind the back claps 10 Merkins 20 LBC’s The Thang: It was a fresh round of cold weather that sprung up on us this morning with temps hovering around 30 degrees. The fartsack must have been especially warm and toasty this …
11 pax of Surge showed up on this Chilly morning to get better. Conditions: 30 and cold BOM Disclaimer Prayer Mosey to the Brick Pile and grab a block, and mosey back to the parking lot. The Ladder; 1 lap around the parking lot and do the following exercise(s) adding 1 exercise (10 reps each) …
Took a lap around parking lot 20 x SSH 20 x Overhead Arm Claps 20 X TTT Grab block and bring back up to parking lot. Complete 25 merkins at the start, run to the end of parking lot, 25 more merkins, run to the start do 25 more, run to the end once …
Seven Pax woke up to a clear and cold morning. It’s 32 degrees with frost on the ground. Where did Spring go? It doesn’t matter because these Pax are too cool to be cold. Jog in place while YHC mumbles something about a disclaimer. Run in place with knife hands (Mission Impossible style). Mosey around …
Great turnout again last week! 24 PAX showed along with 2 FNGs (Bunyan and FreezeTag). Continue to bring out more guys! Commentary: Calling All Captains. I’m always looking for ways that we can step up our game and this past week I was convicted/encouraged by Hot4Teacher. At the end of our Convergence, he presented a …
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YHC was so excited about his return to Q at smokehouse that his brain beat the alarm clock out of bed. By 3AM the mind was ready to go destroy a block workout and get the body into shape. The body just wasn’t that into it. When the mind finally convinced the body to emerge from …
4 Pax posted for a COOL morning workout at Tomahawk. Some missing pax had valid excuses, some apparently just thought it was too cold! T-Claps to the men who did post as betterment was accomplished! Weather, clear and a COOOOOOOL 29 degrees The Thang: Mosey to the Field SSH x 20IC TTT x 20 IC …
In 1930 an American physiologist named Royal H. Burpee developed the Burpee test as a part of his PhD thesis…at least according to Wikipedia. Millions of people in the years since have come to rue the day Dr. Burpee had this brilliant idea, but it has helped us all to #getbetter. This is YHC’s least …
YHC was disappointed to find out a few months ago that he wouldn’t be able to Q on his actual birthday so he settled for the next best thing, the day before. The weather was an absolute treat, and by treat I mean freezing. After calling out a few PAX on #thetwitter, DET had another …
Me and Bar Crawl just walkin’ around with some heavy stuff. Welcome, Disclaimer, and LOM The “Route”: https://www.strava.com/activities/1440501312 Prayer Requests: *Praise for Dowdys – not cancer. Still need prayers for other health concerns *Adluh’s father in law. Visitation is at noon 03/08, Willow Ridge Church *Rook *Beantown Announcements: 03/23-24: P200. Teams …
YHC was awoken by the sound of his phone going off. It was Emmy asking if he was going to Q today. YHC jumped out of bed and drove in hot! After 10 minutes of running around looking for them, YHC finds them on the field in the middle of B.O.M.B.S needless to say the …
Conditions: 51° and brisk Intro Good Morning. Let’s get started. Disclaimer Not a professional. Modify when necessary. Warm Up Exercise Reps IC or OYO Burpee Jacks X 15 IC BBSU’s X 15 OYO Imperial Walkers X 10 IC Alternating Shoulder Taps X 20 OYO The Thang Run to Corner of Rectory and Lyttleton Exercise Reps …
Temp: cool and damp Disclaimer and Tha Thang: SSH X 25 LBAC forward x 20 backward x 20 Raise the roof x 20 Calf stretch 30 sec each leg Through the tunnel x 20 Get Blocks: Shoulder press X 20 ( in cadence) Jump rope 30 sec Curls X 20 ( in cadence) Jump rope …
Weather: 45 Degrees with no wind or rain Disclaimer & Prayer T-Claps to Juice, MJ, Paper Jam & Pickle who ran XL… even from their homes! Count Off & Blinky Light Check The Route: LRAH 10k Course R Maiden L Church R Roberts to Elm to Gibson R Hendrix L Church L N Lake N …
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8 Pax crawled out of the firm grasp of their fartsacks to post to Ambush for a little bit of learning. YHC has been taking his travelling form school around to all of the AOs and it has been loved by few and hated by most, including YHC! The theme of the day was “Engage …
11 Pax for an out and back to the end of Saluda Springs (or 21 minutes and turn around). Conditions: a brisk 34 Circle up. Disclaimer. Safety reminder. count off – 11 pax at the start. Route: leave Crusade and head to Saluda Springs, straight through Whiteford. There and back is about 4.5 miles. If …
It’s that time of year again to start planning for the Lexington 3rdF 5K. This year’s race will be held on May 5th at the Timmerman trails at 8am. We will race the same course as last year. This is and always will be a no-fee event with donations accepted online and in person. This …
At the writing of this Backblast I am being subjected to the season finale of the Bachelor so I am not fully responsible for it’s poor content. 8 Pax showed up at Foxhole this morning ready to put in work. I always like to start a workout with a good kick in the teeth to …
Boot camp is the foundation of F3Nation. All the rucking, running, etc are great and wonderful opportunities to be together; however, the work of Getting Better and Being Better happens in the Gloom at boot camp. It’s there where you challenge yourself; more importantly, it’s there where your presence and willingness to work alongside all …
Conditions: Mild temperatures, perfect weather. The Thang: Disclaimer Some Little baby arm circles forward and back, then overhead claps. About 20 SSH for a warm up. Then mosey around Hampton Park (1/2 mile), finishing in front of the stone seats facing the baseball field. The following ladder: 22 Decline merkins, 22 squats; 16 decline merkins, …
19 Pax posted to Detention for a block party courtesy of YHC. Tardy thought he had the Q but failed to put his name on the Q sheet, or he blamed BooBoo for that, whatever. Great turnout and some how YHC managed to Q such a large group. Mubble chatter was good, until the work …
Time to kick off Tomahawk’s Co-Q challenge for the month of March and I (Chum Lee) had the honor of hosting with Hopps. The pax came with high hopes for Hopps (as they should) and of course he did not disappoint. Conditions: 48 – just right Disclaimer Prayer The Thang: Mosey to Hopp’s Greenhouse/Shop area. …
Weather: 45 degrees, Nice The Thang: Intro, Disclaimer, Prayer and Lord’s Prayer Pledge of Allegiance to the flag. YHC was thinking that it was time to go back and work on some of the basic exercises. Merkins, Big Boy Sit-ups, Squats, Burpees. Especially since our new nantan is known for his merkins. And, since it …
8 Pax posted for the March running of the Kamikaze. Impressive work by the pax. The next Kamikaze will be on April 3rd. Conditions: 50 degs and Damp THE THANG: Disclaimer / Prayer Mozey from the parking lot, down the hill to the far left corner. THE KAMIKAZE: Scoring is 40 pts per lap, plus 1 pt …
Surge welcomed 3 new FNG’s to the gloom and they got a heavy dose of cardio and upper body work. The weather was perfect and the 11 PAX came ready to work. All 3 of the FNG’s are in the car business and their names came to the PAX with ease. A.P.R., Overcharge and Mater. …
YHC had previously signed up to Q but had to pull an audible due to work schedule. Promised Recall that I’d get back on the Q sheet and today worked perfectly. Haven’t been to Arena since the launch so was looking forward to getting back. Recall and Tigerblood have a great group of PAX and …
YHC issued a challenge to downtown Columbia pax to come out and join the Hammer faithful for this morning’s workout. McLovin and Hee Haw answered the call as did 13 Hammer regulars and 1 FNG. YHC would have loved to have seen more Columbia pax who don’t make the regular trip to hammer, but that …
6 brave PAX arrived at The Castle on a chilly 33 degree a.m. Opened with the Disclaimer then onto exercises Warm up Side straddle hop (20 in cadence) Through the tunnel (10 in cadence) Calf stretch (OYO) Little baby arm circles (10 in cadence front and reverse) Windmills (20/10 per leg) (in cadence) Jog around …
Conditions were perfect this morning for spandex and a good workout. Disclaimer and we were off for a little run (some chose a Chi running style of a forward lean from the ankles with a controlled fall) and to the brick pile. A few pax revolted about running with masonry but fortunately they were fast …
YHC was tasked with the Q at #THUNDER on Jan. 2. Alarm issues hampered posting at 0530. However, late arrivals sometimes give you a chance to try something that you may have in mind for next time. Spot, Beads and Oscar were working out OYO without YHC being present that day and 2 of those …
It’s been a while since YHC attended his usual Monday morning boot camp at #Brickpile. This time of year Monday’s are dedicated to training for the P200. April allows YHC to get back to this special group of guys. This morning was a little cooler than it has been and kept a few in the …
One Minute Warning Prayer: Disclaimer: A little more complaining than normal today (and a lot less mumblechatter), so I will assume that all 16 Paxs got better today for this core, high-intensity work! The weather: 51 degrees and cloudy COP: Side straddle hop x 25 IC Burpees x 10 (on-your-own) Squats X 20 OYO Little Baby …
YHC brought the beep murkin circuit over to Shank for a upper body beat down with no running and a wide variety playlist. Conditions 50 Disclaimer, Prayer Mosey across bridge for COP Imperial Walkers x20 IC TTT x15 IC LBAC x 15 IC each way Recover Head over to block pile then head back to Shed …
It was too early to remember names but not to bring the pain “Jumanji Style”. Welcome FNG “Sundance”. I hope this “F3 Rodeo” is tamable! Conditions: Overcast and cool The Thang: Warmup with LBAC, RLBAC, Windmills, Through the Tunnels, Raise the Roof, Over Head Claps, LBC’s, Flutter Kicks, X and Os Mosey to the Football field. …
2 pax posted at Jumanji for what was planned to be a tribute to the Palmetto 200. But since only 2 members of #TheHerd showed up, YHC took a step back and dialed up a 2-man Team tribute to the Palmetto 70. BOM led by YHC Mosey to #DarkCorner COP Windmills x 10 Hillbillies x …
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COP: SSH×20 IC Burpees×2 OYO LBCs×10 IC Mosey to 1st corner of Blatt. SSH×20 IC Burpees×3 OYO LBCs×10 IC Mosey to 2nd corner. SSH×20 IC Burpees×4 LBCs×10 IC Mosey to 3rd corner. SSH×20 IC Burpees×5 OYO LBCs×10 IC Thang: Going to be at the hill right next to flag. 10 burpees at bottom. Run …
4 PAX laughed in the face of a cold early Monday morning and knocked out a few miles and a few hills at Stride. You should read about it because you probably weren’t there. Here’s what you missed: Conditions: 32 deg F & frost on the pumpkin Count off, Disclaimer(?), Prayer – From the parking …
Conditions Crispy 34 Degrees Intro Weak joke about getting paid by under armour so might have to go pro Disclaimer Modify As needed. Warm Up Exercise Reps IC or OYO SSH X 20 IC LBAC X 20 F & R IC Through The Tunnel X 20 IC Double or nothing Warm Up Exercise Reps …
With both unseasonable temperatures and the reality of the P200 looming on this Monday morning, YHC emerged from the #Fartsack looking for a way kick start the week with a tall glass of #DRP. Nothing like speed work to get your mind right and give you the opportunity to breathe in some cool morning air. …
Where to begin? The Q schedule had a Rooster staple, Stay Puff, lined up for Friday but on Wednesday morning a crack in the sidewalk tripped him up and he took a spill. Thursday night there was great discussions on the DM. What route should we take? Who was going to Q? If one rucked …
***Posted on behalf of Kukoc*** WEATHER Perfect weather for F3 Bootcamp Disclaimer Prayer COP All exercises IC SSH x 15 Merkin x 10 WM x 15 Merkin x 10 Imperial Walker x 15 Merkin x 10 Mosey to the blocks and then out to the field The Thang! After having to cancel the previous Thursday …
YHC was not there due to Lexington Convergence. But it is important to get the backblast out for these guys! We did warmup, SSH, merkins, squats, LBC, LBAC all x 20 more or less. Then we rolled over to the amphitheater for a ladder of incline merkins and monkey humpers x 10 at the bottom …
Over 4 years ago, just after posting for his 1st workout at Depot, Ken Doll asked F3 to use him, and did they ever. 33 AOs and 1331 Pax later here we are at the 4 year anniversary of the Big Bang. It is highly likely that F3 would have spread to Lexington anyway but F3 …
When Cesspool reminded YHC and Fannie that we had the #Battle Q the news was greeted unkindly. Between a few random injuries, illnesses and a dash of #fartsacking, leading the men of #Battle just wasn’t a good option. Thankfully, Fannie and I have been around a while and know how to give the buys a …
Location: Shawshank: Soccer Fields Weather: 55 degrees Recap: The men of shawshank witnessed a grand birthday que for Dirty Bird. He is finally a speed limit. 55. The men of shawshank celebrated with reps of 55 with a Boneyard Bone Scatter workout. 6 Pacs completed 8 exercises through the bonescatter maze. They carried two blocks …
YHC may be a Westside PAX who took over a Westside AO for the Westside Takeover, but he is glad it was with the close brothers at Tomahawk. Little backstory to set the tone: Around October-November 2016 Julep put out the call for a Saturday Q for Tomahawk. Having one or two Q’s under his …
YHC was asked to pick a location to Q for a “Westside Takeover” on March 1st. So, YHC decided to bring his talents to The Arena. This was YHC’s first time Qing here so YHC wanted to bring a good workout for the men of The Arena. Here’s what we did: Conditions: High 50’s and …
8.5 Pax showed up for an end of the week jamboree with lots and lots of stations. Conditions – 43 degrees, wet and soggy…Which, believe it or not, was a vast improvement from my last Q in 10 degree weather. Disclaimer The Warmup 20 SSH (IC) 20 Imperial Walkers (IC) Stations Pax split up into …
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9 PAX were not scared off by the rain overnight to post for some unexpected block work. Conditions: 60 degrees, soggy but not raining The Thang: Warmup: 20 SSH IC 10 merkins IC 10 squats IC 10 burpees OYO 20 LBCs OYO Run down to the bottom of Briarfield for a hill suicide. 10 burpees …
Sometimes when planning a workout, your brain locks up. It’s the story of “well, I’ve already done this workout, so and so did this one. What can I do that will be different, yet really push everyone?” It was YHC’s birthday, and things just weren’t coming to him. On top of that, it was raining …
YHC was asked to take part in the #WestSideTakeover Q event today, and graciously accepted his assignment to Q the men of the Hollow. 6 men ignored the threat of rain and yoga, and hopefully we all got better. Here is what we did: Conditions: 58 deg. F & Soggy Disclaimer & Prayer The Thang: …
Conditions Low 60’s and overcast, but awesome weather. 12 pax entered the Gloom of Strut in hopes that we would stay mostly dry and also have the most pax in the region. Well YHC decided to do a fly by the seat of your pants WOD, seems like most of the pax enjoyed it. A …
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YHC hasn’t been feeling his best over the last couple of days. He went to bed last night thinking he may need to make a call to the bullpen in the morning. It could’ve gone either way, but YHC sucked it up and did his duty to post and give the men of Snakepit what …
As YHC pulled into Deer Field Elementary it was clear is going to be a good one. The AO is a honey hole for all kinds of stupid F3 WOs, and nicely lite common areas. As YHC made his was around his headlights revealed the extra “moisty” gloom we would be trekking out into. Greeting …
YHC Had the Q for the men of Roost on a fine Tuesday morning. I have always enjoyed Q’ing at this AO, as it is a challenge to find anything that pushes these animals. So a plan was set, and 4 PAX including YHC were here to enjoy it. This is what happened. The …
Conditions: 65* and Damp Intro, Disclaimer and Prayer COP Mosey to the block pile and grab 1 block apiece and circle up under the breezeway. I did mention it was damp. 25 TTT with behind the back claps 25 Windmills Little Baby Arm Circles 25 forward Little Baby Arm Circles 25 backward 15 Overhead Claps …
6 pax rolled into the Roost Thursday to get better. The rain from overnight had ended making conditions ideal for some work on the track. As horror stories from Tuber’s Tuesday block workout were being told, YHC indicated there would be no blocks used today but probably a good idea to grab gloves. Some listened, …
With today being the Westside Takeover and the (I believe) 4 year anniversary of Lexington F3, I put a little thought into today’s weinke. Trying to incorporate the numbers 48/12/4, the spelling, the weather, and the timeframe… I think it worked out okay. There were a few comments/complaints, which is usually a good thing. 9 total …
Woodshed and Legion have been regularly meeting up on top of Indian Mound since Legion first planted its shovel flag in 2015. Our March convergence was another opportunity to work out with our brothers from across the gloom. The Thang: We started 2 minutes late (YHC didn’t have a watch), so, from Woodland Park, the …
Great turn out again last week on 2/23! This week, I want you to keep in mind that at Full Court, you really can be a leader by sitting. We typically have a few “subs” due to the awesome numbers we have been posting. Work the subs into the game! I realize that not everyone …
As the warmer weather approaches, YHC decided to dial up a workout to help the pax put the finishing touches on sculpting their bodies. Bikini season is right around the corner and our M’s will probably be in awe as we slowly remove our shirts at the beach. Weather: probably 52 degrees, no rain but …
YHC decided to venture East on westside takeover day and make an appearance at Detention. The Detention SF warned me of heavy mumblechatter. The pax did not disappoint. They may all need to hang around until school starts and enter in. These guys cannot count. At all. Hot4Teacher counts like he may still be in …